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RE: Fitness for a particular purpose
~Chloe Quetvelujip 11.Dec.02 05:17 PM a Web browser
Notes Client 6.0 Linux - RedHat, Linux - SuSE


Should Notes for Linux be written with GTK+ or
Qt?
Who cares? No Linux distro comes without both, and thanks to widget themes the trend these days is to make them both look the same, so that the user doesn't know the difference. Also, as you say, porting it to Qt would probably make future releases of Notes accross Windows/Linux/MacOS easier.

Are web apps worse than Notes apps?
Of course not, I've never said that. There are many times when I find myself thinking "oh, how easy it would be if I was doing a web app instead of a Notes app". The problem is that Lotus can implement in Notes the things that are good in a web browser. However, I don't think MS or Netscape will implement the good things of Notes in their browsers ;).

About the TCO, I haven't read Meta's document, but I've read IDG's. Even if we forget the fact that they were paid by MS, they are not taking into account a few important factors. Anyway, I won't go in details because those documents were about Linux Servers, and that's not what we are talking about. Anyway, it is true that during the first years a Linux install would be cheaper to buy but more expensive to manage, because the ITs won't be experience in Linux (that's the most important asertion of IDG's text). However, you are wining on the long term and, what's better, if you went for Red Hat and you decide you don't like them, you can change and go for SuSE or Mandrake, or whatever, just in the same way that you can buy IBM PCs one day and HP computers the next. Also, many companies have their IT maintenance done by others (the company I work for, for example). I can assure you that in those cases they wouldn't have higher IT costs because of using Linux instead of Windows.

Anyway, if you thing a Winelib port would be great, I still don't see why we are argueing, because that's what I've always said from the begining.
I think a Linux port will have to be done sooner or later, but I understand that IBM doesn't want to risk lots of money without being sure, so I think doing such a port would be the best thing to do.

P.S. I would be happy with a Wine/Crossover effort, but I think a winelib efford would be much better. It's basically the same thing but on the later you create a stand alone exe (no need for Wine to be installed before Notes) and you can modify the code to make it faster and more stable (and you can change the client from using Explorer to use Mozilla, for example).




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. . . . . . * Well said. A custom winelet is my... (~Dan Nimponekon... 5.Dec.02)
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. . . . RE: huh? (~Alexis Elluski... 5.Dec.02)
. . . . . . Fitness for a particular purpose (~Mario Cislugon... 5.Dec.02)
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please let's end this discussion (~Chloe Quetvelu... 12.Dec.02)
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ridiculous (~Yentl Quetkrot... 10.Dec.02)
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I still say it is ridculous (~Yentl Quetkrot... 10.Dec.02)
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